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Roar Nets June 19th - June 21st 2016

ROAR Nets Report for 19th and 21st June 2016
0500z - 0530z Anzo Net on 7,110
Time shifted 1 hour earlier (– see comments by VK4ZD and VK2MCB below)
From Bill VK4ZD
Peter VK3KCD was 58 and gave me 59
Phil VK2MCB was 59 and gave me 59
Doug ZL1BFS was 58 and gave me 56-7
0530z - 0630z Europe - Anzo Net on 14,295.2 Long Path
Time shifted 1 hour earlier
From Phil VK2MCB before the net :
Bill VK4ZD and I spoke tonight about recent conditions and particularly about the very poor 20m conditions we have experienced with the net. We noted that ZL has had no contact with Europe for some time.
Bill speculated that things stand a much better chance of working on the Europe-VK/ZL path if we started one hour earlier. This seems borne out by observations of good propagation between EA and VK at around 0500z today.
To see if this works, VK will be on 40m (7110khz + or – QRM) on 19 June at 0500z and will call on 20m (14295.2) at 0530z, to see if this improves contact between ANZO and Europe.
We apologize for the short notice but we will remain on frequency for those who do not get this email in time; ie we will wait until people turn up!
From Nick G4HCK
Will try and get on to see what happens – fingers crossed !!!
From Bill VK4ZD
I know it is a challenge at 6.30am your summer time. Unfortunately that appears to be what the bands are doing to us. In fact VK2 LOSES PROPAGATION 30 MINUTES BEFORE VK4 and to work ZL you would need to be out of bed at 4am. The sacrifices we make for Rotary and our hobby!
From Malcolm PA3AHC on 18th June
Well, I guess it will be like Sunday morning back in the old army days, with : “ wakey, wakey, rise and shine..! “ Worth the experiment, though, whatever the outcome.
From Bill VK4ZD
Don’t give up yet Malcolm. Saturday's propagation was immensely better for me than Sunday's.
From Bill VK4ZD
Phil VK2MCB was 57 and gave me 59
John ZL2JPM and I exchanged 58 reports
Doug ZL1BFS was 58
Peter VK3KCD was 56 and gave me 55
Klaus HB9CQS was 55-6 and gave me 43
Pertti EA7GSU was 43 and gave me 41. At 0612 he built to 56 and gave me the same report.
John G3OKT was just detectable at 11
Nick G4HCK was just detectable at 11
Malcolm PA3AHC was not detectable
Jean Pierre F1CFA was 11 building to 33
Coco YO9BC was 43 building to 55 but he did not copy me
Alain F4GHB was 11 here by the time he called in
From Phil VK2MCB
VK4ZD was first up on freq with a 59 signal which bodes badly for the long path to Europe.
HB9CQS was heard at 0528z with a 42 signal on 40m (7110khz) but could not hear me. After QSY to 20m Klaus was 57 and gave me 54.
ZL2JPM was 57 also and gave me 55 and ZL1BFS was 55. Peter VK3ZKCD was 42 and gave me the same.
EA7GSU was 53 at 0544 giving me 51; G4HCK, Nick was 51 with me at 0552 and gave me 41.
F1CFA was 57 and gave 55 at 0557, with a weakening signal. YO9BC was a good 57 and I was the same with him.
At 0621 I just heard G3OKT with a 31 signal but didn’t copy a report and at 0627, Alain F4GHB came on with a 55 signal, giving me the same.
I could not copy Brian or Malcolm.
Thanks to all for coming up one hour earlier. It worked for me, but maybe this is not a convincing argument for all !!
From John G3OKT
The 0605z QSL predictions were :- SFI 84 A 8 K 2 and sunspots 46 (rising)
There was QRN to S5 here at 0505z. The 14.2943 (Kirzigstan?) carrier was encouragingly strong at S5, with modulation appearing on 14.2952.
EA7GSU was heard here faintly on CW at 5.1.9 at 0542. Also, Pertti was said to be “very weak” with Klaus, but later given 5.7 at best; Pertti was also 5.5 here at 0616.
HB9CQS was not strong here at 4.3, but with QSB up to 5.5. It was unclear who Klaus was talking to. Klaus later came up to 5.7 here at 0635.
VK4ZD was 4.3 with HB9CQS; Bill gave Klaus 5.5.
VK3KCD was ‘stronger than Bill” with Klaus, but Peter was never heard here.
VK2MCB was 5.3 to 5.4 with Klaus. There was no sign of Phil here until 0603z when he was just recognizable with QSB, but no copy. At best, I could just tell Bill was there at 0620.
EA7GSU heard VK2MCB at 4.1.
G4HCK Nick was just recognized here by callsign only.
F1CFA gave 5.5 for VK2MCB at 0556z, but “getting weaker”. Jean Pierre exchanged 5.9 b/w with Pertti. Jean Pierre was only 3.1 to 5.2 here in QSB at 0603, but gave me 5.2; he gave G4HCK 5.5 and gave HB9CQS 2.2.
YO9BC gave Jean Pierre S4 to S3. Coco was 5.9 here throughout; Coco exchanged 5.7 b/w with VK2MCB; gave Klaus 5.5/6 and got 5.4/5.
EA7GSU gave YO9BC 5.4, G4HCK 5.2; gave G3OKT 5.1 to nil in QSB; and was 5.5 here at 0607.
PA3AHC was 5.8 according to Pertti, but Malcolm not heard here.
G4HCK gave VK2MCB 5.1. Nick was 2.1 with QSB here – in the noise.
F4GHB appeared at 0626, just as Pertti said propagation was “upping” to VK. Alain was only 1.1 here, and Klaus said he didn’t have 100% copy.
An Italian station appeared on 14.297 at 0633, at 5.9+10dB and causing several stations severe QRM.
I left the net at 0646.
From Jean Pierre F1CFA
It was a real Sacrifice to get out of the bed this morning...
Moreover, I had not to speak high for not disturbing my wife already sleeping ! Anyway, I heard Phil with a good 5.5 at 0545, then his signal was decreasing with time and 5.1 at 0615. No mention of VK3KCD or VK2MCB or ZL2JPM or anyone else from New Zealand.
For the FIRST time I heard Nick G4HCK pretty good : 55. Pertti was bombing in as usual, but the others Europeans were weaker than usual to the 6h30 meeting.
G3OKT peaked to 5.5, as did YO9BC. But 5.2 later.
Once again, I was surprised to hear you (G3OKT) with a very good 5.5 on my magnetic loop...NO NOISE ! marvellous !
I must say that the magnetic antenna is usually much weaker than the ordinary loops. I am looking for an explanation !!!! any comment is welcome !!
From Nick G4HCK
The birds were singing, the sun was out, and yes it was 0600. But where were the VK's? However at 0630, up popped a faint voice - was it Phil? Yes I could just hear him. However strange events occurred. I was copying European stations, and F1CFA was 5.8/9 - most unusual. I don’t know how others found today but the one thing I think we will all agree, the band is not in good shape, but we made it today - JUST !!!
From Bill VK4ZD on 20th June
I am glad that the more southerly VK stations had better success.
The band seems to vary greatly from day to day.
On Saturday I had excellent contacts into Europe 59+
Hopefully we will do better on Tuesday
0800z - 0900z UK 80-metre Net on 3,694
From John G3OKT (late arrival 0820z to 0850z).
Difficult conditions today.
G3LUW described conditions as very, very bad, and the net as “horrible”. There was strong QSB on all signals, most were below S8.
Brian nearly lost Tommy G2FUU in QSB, and Tommy (Net Controller) occasionally lost Brian as unreadable.
G4LXD Bill was 5.9 here (just)
G2FUU exchanged 5.8 b/w with G3OKT. Actually QSB took his signal from 5.9 to 5.6. Tommy heard me at 5.9 – 20dB less than usual.
G3LUW said he couldn’t hear much. G3JJR and G2FUU 4.4; G3SZF and G3LXD 3.3; and G3OKT (5.9+ just).
G3JJR John was getting the best signal from G3LUW ever! Also G3OKT at 5.9+60dB!
G7OAI/P John was 5.9 (just) here – unusually down in strength, but gave G3LUW 5.9+.
G3SZF Bob was 5.9 here; and having occasional trouble receiving G3LUW.
John G3JJR is considering a new rig. John G7OAI recommended the YAESU FT 450D.
Brian updated the net on the late Diana G4MVV. Derek and Marie had visited her two days before she passed away. A family service will be held on 4th July. A later memorial service with open access at Clay Hiden will be announced.
Both G2FUU and G7OAI/P will be on net next week - G3OKT may be absent.
The net was closed by Tommy at 0850z.
1200z – 1300z TransAtlantic Net on 14,287/8 or at 1500z on Sunday on 14287kHz or 14.310MHz
1700z – 1730z RIBI evening 80-metre Net on 3,693
G2FUU, Tommy, had said earlier that he would not be on this net (Fathers’ Day).
2000z - 2030z N.AM Transcontinental Net on 14,287/8 or 14.310
0700z – 0730z Tuesday 21st June 2016 NZ 80-m net on 3,693
0530z - 0600z Tuesday 21st June 2016 EUR net on 14,295.2 / 7,136 +/-
Time shifted 1 hour earlier
From Bill VK4ZD
Today was even worse than Sunday for me
Phil VK2MCB was 58
Klaus HB9CQS was 33 but could not copy me
Jean-Pierre F1CFA was 11 here
Coco YO9BC was 22
Doug ZL1BFS called in for a radio check and was 55
Pertti EA7GSU was 54 and gave me the same but by 0600 I was only 41 to him
Malcolm PA3AHC was not heard
John G3OKT was 11 here (I think I heard something from him)
From Phil VK2MCB
Again, I had reasonable signals from Europe except for the UK. The polar path worked very well from my QTH into Spain, France, Switzerland and Romania but just skipped over the UK and Netherlands.
Klaus was heard 57 and gave 53, F1CFA was 55 but gave me 58 and then Jean Pierre came up to 57 at 0541z; YO9BC was 57 and gave me 56; Doug ZL1BFS was 33 and gave me the same and Bill VK4ZD was 59.
No copy on Malcolm or John G3OKT this time. We certainly live in interesting times. I was quite surprised how good the signals were for me, given Bill had much worse conditions.
From John G3OKT
QSL propagation conditions at 0520z were SFI 84 A 4 K 1 sunspots 35 (falling)
HB9CQS was heard very faintly at 0528z to say “Not very strong - Phil 5.3”. Klaus was not touching the S meter – 2.1?
VK2MCB was not heard here at all.
YO9BC and G3OKT exchanged 5.9 b/w. Coco and Klaus both heard Phil at 5.5-6.
G3LUW was heard by Coco but not here.
F1CFA was “very, very weak” with Coco. Jean Pierre was in the noise for both G3OKT and EA7GSU; Pertti was very strong with Coco, but hardly heard here at 0547.
ZL1BFS Doug was on frequency but heard by neither EA7GSU nor G3OKT.
PA3AHC was acknowledged by Pertti at 0653 but not heard here.
EA7GSU was suddenly 5.8 here at 0554 calling Malcolm for Phil. Malcolm had no copy of VK. Pertti gave G3OKT 5.8/9 in exchange for 5.7/8 at 0558z, but at 0603z we exchanged 5.9!
VK4ZD Bill was told by Pertti at 0600 that he was going down again! Bill was never heard here, except perhaps a whisper in the noise at 0603z.
YO9BC also said at 0553 that Phil was now down from S6 at 0530 to 5.2-3.
Pertti closed the net at 0608, confirming the start time next Sunday would be 0530z again.
From Jean Pierre F1CFA
G3OKT was in the background this morning and of course, it was impossible to report the net meeting. So, it's my report, (if useful ) :
As described by someone, the situation is becoming Worst. But some considerations have to be said : This morning, for example, I received Phil VK2MCB 5.8 at the beginning of the Net Meeting ( 5h30 ). Then, slowly, with deep QSB variations all along, Phil was going down to 51 and worst at 6h15. VK4ZD was 51, and worst.
For the European members, Pertti was very low at the beginning then growing up 5.8 to 6h00, down again at 6h15. YO9BC was readable, no more. No mention of G3LUW and Malcolm PA3AHC was in the background. HB9CQS burst suddenly to 5.5 then down again quickly to 2.2 ( ! ).
I was copying G3OKT 5.1, no more.
Anyway, I decided to stay on the frequency until 6h30 to pick up any member not aware for the change of time and, as a surprise, suddenly Brian G3LUW was on with a 59+ signal !!!
A quarter later, he was down to 51.
My conclusion is that the sun is dancing with us in fast variations. We have to follow it so quickly !! And Perhaps can we try again the 40 m band on the Tuesday morning only.
From Bill VK4ZD
Yes, I think you should check out the 40m band whenever possible
From Pertti EA7GSU
Exciting morning, you never know who will come back to you, hi!!
This time it was Klaus, who was out of the connection, only 31 but occasionally others, too were non readable. Coco was the strongest - and steadiest signal.
I cannot make it to 40m as long as my mast is down. Delayed process to lift Stepp IR.
Band is not any more different than what it has been in previous years around the spot minimum! The QSO’s just do not come so easy
From Bill VK4ZD
I have not been so active in other years when this problem occurred.
I do not recall having such bad results at my QTH before but I think it is the best time slot to get anything at all on 20m.
I am sure that Phil and others who have made contact will concur.
If I was judging by what contacts I made I would be questioning my logic but I must look at the bigger picture.
From Bill VK4ZD
Sunday was certainly not as good as Saturday but we live in hope.
0530z offers the best opportunity. Try, try again. Never give up.
From Malcolm PA3AHC
But comparing my Sundays one to each other , the results seem to be getting worse. " When the going gets tough , the tough get going !"
From Bill VK4ZD
I think we just have to have patience and believe that we will come out of this low.
From Nick G4HCK
Sure I can wait a couple of weeks no problem - I have patience !!! Fingers crossed for Sunday
That’s all for now,
73s from John G3OKT
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